@EddieJennings said in Planning with Potential Clients:

@scottalanmiller said in Planning with Potential Clients:

@marcinozga said in Planning with Potential Clients:

You said meetings with potential clients. That sums it up, you're trying to sell them something, so you don't bill for that.

You also don't give away any consulting or "answers".

That's something I, or anyone else, would have to take care to avoid. I could see someone getting carried away and end up trying to design a solution before an agreement is reached.

I've seen that happen a lot. Even people implementing the solution for free. With nothing whatsoever left to pay for at the end.

@wirestyle22 said in Its to early to do math - SIP cost calculations - confirmation needed:

I'm very tired and read this as "Is it too early to do Meth?"

If you're awake, it's not too early 😉

@eddiejennings said in [SIP Pricing: How much are 11.338 milliseconds worth?]

Twilio: New Jersey at 12.853 ms average ping
Voip.ms: Atlanta (Atlanta2) at 1.515 ms average ping

Still trying to figure out where you are getting Twilio New Jersey? It seems like you are talking about the VULTR data centers to your office, and not the VULTR data centers to the pops.

Twilio is 35% cheaper on inbound and at least 15% cheaper on outbound. Your DID numbers and toll free costs are irrelevant. You need to dump the DID's you arent using, maybe keep 5 extra. If you can dump half thats $600 per year.

On actual costs see below. You are clearly saving money now and any increase in call volume will only add to those savings. You could save on toll free with a couple other people, but for ease of administration I would keep it all at one place.

And remember, those PRI DID's cost the CLEC anything. I had a guy trying to port 800 DID's to me once and we ended up issuing 150 of our DID's, forwarding theres for 6 months and dumping them. My DIDs cost me nothing, porting those 800 would have cost me $200 per month and he would have been paying $800 per month to us.

Twilio
Inbound: 5,649 at $0.0045 / minute ($25.42)
Outbound: 6,421 at $0.007 / minute ($44.95)

$70.73

VOIP.MS
Inbound: 4,363.9 at $0.009 / minute ($39.28)
Outbound: 5,376.3 at $0.01 / minute ($53.76)

$93.08

And imagine these numbers in multiples. $700 versus $930.

Everything I hear about Voip.ms is good, but Twilio's infrastructure is many times larger. They are already cheaper. I cant really speak to Voip.ms but have been meaning to give them a try.